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Ten Tips to Get Your Relatives Talking

Gathering information from oral history interviews is an important part of genealogy research. It is the springboard for further research.  The clues gleaned from oral history interviews provide just the clues we need to explore new routes to discovering our ancestors.

Sometimes, however, it can be difficult or uncomfortable to get started or keep our ancestors talking. Here are ten tips to ease the process and lay the foundation for a great interview.

1) Start with a photograph

Sometimes it's hard for both parties in an interview to get started! Make it easier by pulling out an old photo and asking your relative what is going on in the photo as well as when it was taken and where.

2) Choose universal themes

Starting with topics that impact everyone can make the process smoother. Talk about food (everyone eats!) or clothing styles.

3) Holidays and celebrations

Birthdays are a good topic to discuss with your relatives. How did they celebrate their birthdays? Were there certain traditions each year?  If you don't make headway on the birthday topic, try national or religious holidays. Find out if you relative has any good New Year's, Christmas, or Hanukah memories of years past that they can share.

4) Sibling Rivalry Victory-garden-wikipedia

Prod your relative with a question about sibling rivalry. Ask them who got away with everything or who always got into trouble. Did your relative have to share a bedroom or did they have their own space? Who took the longest time in the bathroom and kept everyone waiting?

5) Family Gatherings

Did your family get together with extended family or did you just keep to yourself? This, of course, could be dependent on whether or not family lived close by. How often did your relative see their cousins or extended family and where did that family live?

6) Military and War

Discussions about the military and war are common to most families. Even if your relatives and ancestors weren't in the military they may have been impacted by wars. In fact, service men and women might not want to open up about their direct military experience.  Instead focus on the impact of war back home. Did your relative ever experience rationing of food or gas? Did they ever go without certain items? Did they grow a Victory Garden?

7) School Days

Most children went to school, at least for a short period in their childhood. What was school like for your relative? How long did they attend? Did they enjoy it? What topics did they study?

8) Sports

Sports is a universal topic whether your relative played sports at school, in the neighborhood with the local kids, or simply watched their favorite teams on the tv or listened to them on the radio. What was the favorite sports in your relative's town? Who did they play with? Were there any high school or college stars in the family?

9) Deep memories

Ask your relative who the oldest family member was that they have a memory of meeting during their childhood. Where did that meeting take place? Who else was there? How many times did they get to see that person?

10) Interview two relatives together

Sometimes an interview between an interviewer and an interviewee can be awkward! Remove the discomfort by including two family members together in the conversation. Often times, relatives will have different memories of the same event.  Ask them about vacations they took together or events they attended. You may surprised by the different stories they tell!

Five Tips for Visiting Cemeteries in the Fall

Fall is often the best time for visiting cemeteries, especially for genealogists who live in colder climates. The colder air, or maybe even an early frost, will cause the vegetation to die back, making it easier to get around and find gravestones. The clear air and bright sunlight will also make it better to view the gravestones than in the haze and blaze of summer.

Here are five tips for making the most of a fall visit to a cemetery:

1) Wear sturdy shoes or boots

Winter and Spring are the most dangerous times to visit cemeteries due to icy and muddy conditions. Autumn brings sturdier, more solid footing. Even so, cemeteries are prone to having unexpected sink holes. Safeguard against tripping and falling by wearing your sturdiest pair of shoes or a pair of boots.  Nothing will put a damper a cemetery visit like a sprained ankle!

2) Bring clippers and gloves

Even if the vegetation has died back from the cold, the stems and branches may still pose an obstacle between you and the gravestone you want to view. Often simply overgrown flowers can be a culprit in preventing the reading of text on a gravestone. Brings clippers along to cut back any vegetation that is blocking the stone of your ancestor and be sure to wear gloves to help prevent cuts to your hands. Be careful, though, not to scrape the gravestone with the clippers, especially if it is very old. Leave the gravestone in the same condition you found it, without any additional scratches or scrapes.

3) Keep your cell phone close by

While we don't like to think about it, sometimes accidents do happen in cemeteries. Headstones have been known to topple onto children and adults have broken their legs in muddy conditions or unsuspecting holes.  Keep your cell phone handy and close to your body, particularly if you are alone. If you fall and get stuck you won't be able to reach for your bag where your cell phone is stored. Keep your phone instead in a shirt pocket or a fanny pack so that it will always be accessible in case of an emergency.

4) Photograph landscape views of the cemetery

When you find your ancestor's gravestone don't just photograph the individual gravestone. Take the time to photograph nearby gravestones, even if they don't have the same surnames as they could be family members. Also, take some panorama shots of the whole cemetery, starting on one side and slowly circling around to the other side. Not only will this give you great photos to remember what the cemetery looked like but you might get some really beautiful fall foliage shots as well!

5) Install the Billion Graves Mobile App

If you're a smart phone use be sure to install the Billion Graves Mobile App. While in the cemetery, take photos of your ancestors' gravestones and upload them immediately to the Billion Graves website. Volunteers will then transcribe the image you have uploaded, making it available to millions of people. You might be providing just the information needed to break down a distant cousin's brick wall!


Caption: A sample gravestone entry on the Billion Graves website.

Bon Voyage - 11th Annual Legacy Genealogy Cruise begins

2013 09 24_0308Tomorrow we leave to begin our 11th annual Legacy Genealogy Cruise, this year to Asia. We will depart from Tokyo, Japan and visit Mt. Fuji, Japan; Kobe, Japan; Kagoshima, Japan; Nagasaki, Japan; Shanghai, China; Taipe, Taiwan; and conclude in Hong Kong, China. We will sail on Celebrity's Millennium. We've also got lots of genealogy and Legacy classes planned and lots of time for one-on-one and small group sessions.

Just because I will be gone for 18 days enjoying the food (I promise to spend time in the gym) and time alone with my wife (oh how I will miss my four kiddos at home) doesn't mean I will forget about all of you. I hope to keep you updated - here on this blog, and probably over on our Facebook page too with pictures and play-by-play accounts of what we're up to.

And by the way, even though we won't have our weekly webinars, I have unlocked the entire "Watch Geoff Live" series for the duration of our trip. Look for them here. I also just had an idea. Why don't we issue a Bon Voyage 10% off-anything-in-the-store coupon code? Here's the code:


It's good for 10% of annything at or through Monday, November 10, 2014.

While you are wishing you were with us, check out next year's cruise to the Western Caribbean. From June 20-27, 2015 we will sail on Royal Caribbean's "Oasis of the Sea" and visit Fort Lauderdale, Florida; Labadee, Haiti; Falmouth, Jamaica; and Cozumel, Mexico. Lisa Louise Cooke will be joining us as our featured speaker. Visit for more information.


Our sincere thanks go out to our entire technical support and sales staff who will continue to provide sales and support services while we are away. Thanks Ron, Jim, Sherry, Brian, Michele, Sarah, Bryan, Marian, Jairmie and Leonard for keeping us afloat!

We'll either see you here, on Facebook, or on the ship!

3 New Legacy QuickGuides now available - Non-population census records, Texas Genealogy AND Researching Child Migrants and British Home Children

Legacy QuickGuidesTM have quickly become one of the more popular resources for genealogists. Each guide contains four (sometimes five, sometimes more) pages of valuable information covering a variety of genealogy research topics, dozens of clickable links, and are written by genealogists and family historians who are experts in the subject areas. We've added two brand new Legacy QuickGuides: U.S. Federal Non-population Census Records by Deena Coutant and Researching Child Migrants and British Home Children by Kathryn Lake Hogan.

U.S. Federal Non-population Census Records by Deena Coutant

US Federal Non-PopulationThe U.S. government took special censuses, commonly referred to as “non-population” schedules, to count unique segments of the population or create snapshots of communities. Although lesser known and under used, these schedules are full of genealogically significant information, and should be utilized for the years and places where available. Not all special census records survived, and many aren’t yet available online—researching them can be challenging, but they are worth the effort.

The U.S. Federal Non-population Census Records Legacy QuickGuide™ contains useful information including the different types of non-population schedules, access points for these records, and strategies for using each group of records. Also included are links to websites and resources covering agricultural schedules, mortality schedules, manufacturing schedules, “DDD” schedules and more. This handy 8-page PDF guide can be used on your computer or mobile device for anytime access.


Researching Child MirgrantsResearching Child Migrants and British Home Children by Kathryn Lake Hogan

Between 1832 and 1970, some 118,000 orphaned and/or poor British children were emigrated from Britain to Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and South Africa under Child Emigration schemes.

The Researching Child Migrants and British Home Children Legacy QuickGuide™ contains useful information and resources to help you learn more about child migrants and British home children in Canada and Australia. Includes research strategies and contact information for several groups and societies in the UK, Canada and Australia. This handy 4-page PDF guide can be used on your computer or mobile device for anytime access.


Texas GenealogyTexas Genealogy by Deena Coutant

Texas holds a unique place in the history of North America and provides many opportunities to research the records of her settlers and citizens. Six flags have flown over Texas territory during the 1500s-2000s, including Spain, France, Mexico, Republic of Texas, Confederate States, and the United States. With Texas being the largest of the contiguous United States, many different cultures have shaped her rich history.

Looking for those elusive Lone Star State ancestors? The Texas Genealogy Legacy QuickGuide™ contains useful information including a timeline of Texas history events, tips on Texas research strategy, outline of major immigrant groups, and more. Also included are links to websites and resources covering vital records, church records, census records, as well as general Texas resources. This Texas-sized 12-page PDF guide can be used on your computer or mobile device for anytime access.


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Tracking Migration Using the Draper Manuscripts - free webinar by Mary Hill now online for limited time


This may be the webinar that cracks your genealogical case! Mary introduced a little-known resource that is sure to knock down a few brick walls. The recording of today's webinar, "Tracking Migration Using the Draper Manuscripts," by Mary Hill is now online for free for a limited time at A few comments from our viewers:

  • Along with many others, I had never heard of these manuscripts. What a wealth of resources! So glad I took this webinar. Now to start digging!
  • As usual, Mary's webinar lights "fires" under us with new genealogy frontiers to explore! Thanks so much!
  • Oh My Gosh what wonderful information. I never knew what valuable information was contained there.....thank you so much. Going hunting in the papers later this afternoon!

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  • Legacy Family Tree - Virtual User's Group Meeting by Legacy Family Tree Panel. November 14.
  • Using Evernote for Genealogy by Lisa Louise Cooke. November 19.
  • Family History for Kids by Devin Ashby. December 3.
  • Can You Hear Me Now? Voice Recognition Software for Genealogists by Luana Darby. December 5.
  • Researching Your North Carolina Ancestors by J. Mark Lowe. December 10.
  • Bagging a Live One - Connecting with Cousins You Never Knew You Had by Mary Kircher Roddy. December 17.

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Correction - 93 (not 36) new suggested sources added to Legacy's Research Guidance

Earlier today I published an article detailing what's new in today's free Legacy update. I mentioned there were 36 new suggested sources added to Legacy's Research Guidance database. Somehow I was off by a little bit. There were not 36, but 93 new recommendations added (along with 71 updates) to Legacy's Research Guidance. Wow, we've been working harder than I thought. :) Here's the entire list:

  • Oregon, Marriages, 1853-1935
  • Oregon Marriage Indexes, 1906-1925, 1946-2008


    New Mexico, Territorial Census, 1885
  • Georgia Deaths, 1928-1938


    Alabama Deaths, 1908-1974
  • Quebec Census, 1861


    Ohio Deaths and Burials, 1854-1997
  • Norway Burials, 1666-1927


    Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927
  • Norway Marriages, 1660-1926


    Sweden Marriages, 1630-1920
  • Sweden Baptisms, 1611-1920


    Swedish Burials, 1649-1920
  • Swedish Church Records


    Swedish Court Records
  • Swedish Estates and Inventories
  • Swedish Tax Registers
  • 1940 US Federal Census


    Australian Cemeteries
  • Reverse Western Australia Marriage Lookup 1906-1965


    WieWasWie (Dutch resource)
  • SVAR (Swedish resource)


    Arkivdigital (Swedish resource)
  • Canadian Headstones


    Denmark Baptisms, 1618-1923
  • Denmark Burials, 1640-1917


    Denmark Church Records, 1484-1941
  • Denmark Civil Marriages, 1851-1961


    Denmark Estate Records, 1436-1964
  • Denmark Marriages, 1635-1916


    Denmark 1930 Census
  • Old Fulton NY Postcards


    Chronicling America
  • Family Tree (FamilySearch)


    DIStreff (Norwegian lineage-linked database)
  • TribalPages

  • Public and Private Member Trees
  • MyHeritage


  • WeRelate


  • Geni


    British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986
  • British Columbia Marriage Registrations, 1859-1932


    Colombia, Catholic Church Records, 1600-2012
  • Ghana Census, 1984


    New Zealand, Probate Records, 1843-1998
  • New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981


    New Zealand Passenger Lists, 1839-1973
  • Spain, Baptisms, 1502-1940


    Spain, Marriages, 1565-1950
  • Spain, Cantabria, Passports, 1785-1863


    Spain, Diocese of Santander [Cantabria], Catholic Church Records, 1538-1985
  • Belgium, Luxembourg, Civil Registration, 1580-1920


    Belgium, Namur, Civil Registration, 1800-1912
  • Belgium, Liège, Civil Registration, 1621-1910


    Belgium, Antwerp, Civil Registration, 1609-1909
  • Belgium, Brabant, Civil Registration, 1582-1912


    Belgium, East Flanders, Civil Registration, 1541-1910
  • Belgium, West Flanders, Civil Registration, 1582-1910

  • Belgium, Hainaut, Civil Registration, 1600-1913
  • China, Collection of Genealogies, 1239-2013


    Czech Republic, School Registers 1799-1953
  • Czech Republic, Censuses, 1800-1945


    England and Wales, Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
  • England and Wales, Death Registration Index 1837-2007


    England and Wales, Marriage Registration Index, 1837-2005
  • Ohio, Cuyahoga County Probate Files, 1813-1932


    Ohio, County Death Records, 1840-2001
  • Pennsylvania Obituaries, 1977-2010

  • New York, Queens County Probate Records, 1785-1950
  • Slovakia, Church and Synagogue Books, 1592-1910


    TROVE (Australian newspapers)
  • National Library of Australia


    National Archives of Australia
  • Australian War Memorial


    Australia, Births and Baptisms, 1792-1981
  • Australia, Cemetery Inscriptions, 1802-2005


    Australia, Cemetery Inscriptions, Sydney Branch Genealogical Library, 1800-1960
  • Australia, Deaths and Burials, 1816-1980


    New South Wales State Records
  • New South Wales Early Convict Records


    New South Wales Probate Records
  • Passenger Lists - Arrivals to New South Wales


    World War II Nominal Roll (Australia)
  • Korean War Nominal Roll (Australia)


    GenealogieOnline (Netherlands)
  • Germany Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898
  • Germany Deaths and Burials, 1582-1958
  • Germany Marriages, 1558-1958

Register for Webinar Wednesday - Tracking Migration Using the Draper Manuscripts by Mary Hill

LogowhiteIt is estimated that about one and a half million people are named in the folders of the Draper Manuscripts! Is your ancestor one of them?

Join us this Wednesday as Mary Hill teaches about the manuscript collection of Lyman Draper which include gleanings from the Carolinas, Virginia, portions of Georgia, Alabama, the Ohio River valley, and parts of the Mississippi valley from about 1755 through 1870. Find out how to approach searching this vast collection and the hidden treasures that can be discovered therein.

Pre-webinar interview with Mary

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About the presenter

Presenter-8636Mary E.V. Hill, MLS, AG ® (Mid-Atlantic States); worked as reference librarian at BYU from 1989-1992, as genealogy instructor at BYU from 1992-1995, as Family History Library US/Canada Reference consultant from 1995-2006. She served on the UGA Board of Directors from 2006-2008 and as an LDS missionary at the Family History Library from 2006-2008. She is the author of Saga of a Southern Loyalist: William Riddle of Virginia and North Carolina, and Angel Children. She is a lecturer with emphasis on U.S. research methods and genealogical organization. Mary is a mother and grandmother.

Click here to view Mary's webinars in the archives.

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Free Legacy Family Tree update now available (version

UpdateWe have another great new update for our Legacy Family Tree 8 users (free) for you to download. We've added 36 brand new Research Guidance suggestions. Maybe there's a new source or two for one of your ancestors! We also fixed some minor issues you have reported to us.

See the download instructions below for step-by-step instructions on installing this update.

What's New

Legacy's exclusive, built-in Research Guidance, takes a look at what you already know about an ancestor, then gives you a prioritized list of research links and suggestions - all based on your ancestor's time period and location. Beginners love the guidance; experienced researchers love the checklist as a way to not overlook potential sources. Here's the list of new Research Guidance sources added in this update:

  • Oregon, Marriages, 1853-1935
  • Oregon Marriage Indexes, 1906-1925, 1946-2008
  • New Mexico, Territorial Census, 1885
  • Georgia Deaths, 1928-1938
  • Alabama Deaths, 1908-1974
  • Quebec Census, 1861
  • Ohio Deaths and Burials, 1854-1997
  • Norway Burials, 1666-1927
  • Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927
  • Norway Marriages, 1660-1926
  • Sweden Marriages, 1630-1920
  • Sweden Baptisms, 1611-1920
  • Swedish Burials, 1649-1920
  • Swedish Church Records
  • Swedish Court Records
  • Swedish Estates and Inventories
  • Swedish Tax Registers
  • 1940 US Federal Census
  • Australian Cemeteries
  • Reverse Western Australia Marriage Lookup 1906-1965
  • WieWasWie (Dutch resource)
  • SVAR (Swedish resource)


    Arkivdigital (Swedish resource)
  • Canadian Headstones


    Demark Baptisms, 1618-1923
  • Denmark Burials, 1640-1917


    Demark Church Records, 1484-1941
  • Denmark Civil Marriages, 1851-1961


    Denmark Estate Records, 1436-1964
  • Denmark Marriages, 1635-1916


    Denmark 1930 Census
  • Old Fulton NY Postcards


    Chronicling America

Learn more about Legacy's Research Guidance in this webinar (free): Digital Research Guidance, Research Logs, and To Do Lists by Geoff Rasmussen.

What's Been Fixed

View the October 19 release notes here. 

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Legacy QuickVideo: How to Create a List of War of 1812 Candidates

In yesterday's after-webinar party we showed how to create a list of War of 1812 candidates in your Legacy Family Tree file. We used the "Veteran Identification Strategy" portion of Thomas MacEntee's syllabus and created a list of 153 individuals in my family file. Then we learned how to narrow the list down to just my direct line, and found 68. Wow, I'm excited to start searching for them using the resources Thomas presented. Watch the entire webinar here or the QuickVideo below.


New 4th Edition of Christine Rose's Genealogical Proof Standard book now available

ProofOne of genealogy's finest has announced the availability of the 4th Edition of her popular book, Genealogical Proof Standard: Building a Solid Case. While I have not yet personally reviewed the new revised edition, if it is anything like the previous editions, this is a must-have book for your genealogy library. Here's what it's about:

The Genealogical Proof Standard is the standard set by the genealogical field to build a solid case, especially when there is no direct evidence providing an answer, or when there are conflicts in the evidence. This easy-to-read guide clearly sets forth the elements of this standard, and how to apply it to resolve genealogical problems. It leaves the reader with a good understanding of the five points of the GPS as distinguished from the three step classification process for evidence analysis. Many examples included.

Paperback: 72 pages, 8.5" x 5.5", illustrated, published 2014.



About the author:

Christine Rose, board-certified genealogist and board-certified lecturer of The Board for Certification of Genealogists, is a Fellow of the American Society of Genealogists. Her lecturing experience includes national conferences (National Genealogical Society, Federation of Genealogical Societies, and GenTech), and many regional seminars and local county seminars including New York Genealogical and Biographical Society in New York City; seminars in Chicago, Illinois; San Francisco, California; Long Island, New York, MENSA, and many others.

In addition, she served on the faculty of the Institute of Genealogical Research in Washington, D.C., and since 1992 has been on the faculty as an instructor and a course coordinator of Samford University's Institute of Historical and Genealogical Research. Christine was elected Fellow, American Society of Genealogists in 1988. This honor is bestowed by peers based on the quantity and quality of publications, and is limited to only fifty at any one time. She has also been awarded the prestigious Donald Lines Jacobus award for two genealogy books, and received top reviews for the book she co-authored, The Complete Idiot's Guide to Genealogy.

Christine has served in the past as VP for the Federation of Genealogical Societies VP for the Association of Genealogical Societies, and Trustee of the Board for Certification of Genealogists. She has been interviewed on CBS evening news (San Francisco, California), W.H.O. (Des Moines, Iowa), PBS in Jackson, Mississippi, Joe Gallagher (New York), Dick Eastman, and others. She has also been subject of extensive news articles in the Des Moines Register, and the San Jose [California] Mercury-News.